It wasn't supposed to turn out this way, at least for Florida State. And count Miami, Maryland and North Carolina State among that group.
When the Atlantic Coast Conference first raided the Big East in 2004 and headed toward expanding to 12 teams, the idea was to improve the stature of football for the league, which had been dominated by the Seminoles.
But Florida State, which was 20-4 in the three seasons before the expansion, is only 14-10 since. Miami? It ruled in the Big East by going 20-1 in 2001-03, but like its in-state rival, is only 14-10.
Maryland was 19-5 before expansion and only 11-13 since. N.C. State? The Wolfpack had a 13-11 mark but have slumped to 8-16 in the new ACC.
There are winners in the deal, reports J.P. Giglio of the Raleigh News & Observer. Virginia Tech, Georgia Tech, Boston College and North Carolina have all experienced turnarounds. As for Virginia, Clemson, Wake Forest and Duke, the impact has been minimal.